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Élizabeth Teissier, Pluto in Scorpio & the AIDS epidemic
by Richard Pellard
English translation by Julien Rouger

Élizabeth Teissier dangerously recounted and prophesied anything about the relationship between Pluto’s position in Scorpio and the AIDS epidemic. A detox treatment is necessary.

The failed prophecies of Élizabeth Teissier:

…in the summer of 1992, when it seems astrologically reasonable to hope that we will then be able to treat AIDS patients effectively. What seems to me to be able to be affirmed without possible ambiguity is, for the end of November 1995, the beginning of a total victory and without surrender over this terrible virus, which could (should!) then be no more than a terrible memory, a nightmare gone” in Astrology, science of the 21st century, 1988, page 425. This prophecy does not prevent him from writing, page 226 of the same work, that around 11th August 1999, a “third world war or a reversal of the poles, suffocating pollution of our globe deprived of pure water, famine, war or epidemics (AIDS)…”! Admire the timeline!

It could very well be that we find a definitive and radical remedy — if it has not already been done since November 1994 — to AIDS, in this year 1995” in Your stars until the year 2001, 1995, page 100.

It seems to me that the application of this treatment will make that in 95, we can hope that AIDS is something over and forgotten” statement of Calamity Germaine to Génération Succès, TF1, February 1990. Comment transcribed in Entrevue No. 43, February 1996.

…let’s modulate this optimistic prognosis by declaring that the end of 1994, beginning of 1995 should be an important stage on this road strewn with pitfalls and push back the final deadline to 1997, more in accordance with the state of scientific research […]” in Astrology, science of the 21st century, 1994 edition, page 32.

Why AIDS prophecies?

The argument is very simple: according to “traditional” astrology, Scorpio is the sign of sex and death. But Pluto, his planet “Ruler” Began to transit this Sign when AIDS appeared; so there is a correlation between this disease and Pluto in Scorpio; so this disease should end when Pluto leaves Scorpio and enters the Sign of Sagittarius.

Excerpts from Traité pratique d’astrologie of A. Barbault on Scorpio:

This Sign is that of “the corresponding anus psychoanalytically to the values of excrement: dejection, expulsion, liquidation, restitution […] The power of being is or comes from sex and it is through this sexual power, natural, displaced or sublimated, through the integration of eroticism, raw or spiritualized that he finds his raison d’être.” It feels like a brothel, a back room, an orgy box… or in the toilet. Hard to read for prudish, chaste or simply not sexually obsessed Scorpios, not interested in pee-poo-sex, who in no way correspond to these sulphurous, scabrous, coprophagic descriptions… and in most cases completely unrelated to the real. For reference, here is what serious astrology said about the Scorpio.

Pluto is no more spoiled by this author: “According to the optics Freudian, this star represents the affective tendencies of the ‘sado-oral’ stage, which clearly situates the relationship it maintains with Scorpio, whose character it has”, or for the worse (el AIDS is part of the worst): “the forces of evil, black, ugly, dirty, bad, anguish, death, or all forms of destructive aggression.” For reference, here’s what serious astrology says about Pluto.

Here is what André Barbault, one of the master thinkers, writes astrosymbolists of Calamity Germaine, about the recent passage of Pluto in Scorpio:

The crossing of Pluto in Scorpio gratifies us with an impressive historical parallel which — specificity common to the star and the Sign — tragically couples sex and death. When he went there five centuries ago (1491–1501), syphilis made its appearance (1494) and ravaged all of Europe (1502). Although there was no repetition of the genre in the previous passage from 1737–1748 […] it was AIDS that struck the world over the entire recrossing from 1984 to 1995. Certainly, the appearance of this ‘sex plague’ of the 20th century goes back to 1979 and, no doubt, Pluto-Scorpio is not the only one in question: was not the predicted so critical course of the 1980s that of an exceptional planetary concentration that, from Astrologer No. 28, I had put in parallel with that of 1347 which had seen the invasion of the famous ‘black plague’ which decimated Europe? What was also the case with the syphilitic invasion of the end of the 15th century. Regardless of the accompanying factor, typical is nonetheless the nature of the ordeal experienced.

The positions of the slow planets in 1981, at the start of the AIDS epidemic:

Élizabeth Teissier is therefore not the only one to peddle this kind of nonsense. It remains to be shown that these are nonsense, both from the point of view of the astrosymbolists themselves and from that of the sensible astrologers who criticize them. It’s not very hard…

The “mastery” of Pluto on Scorpio

I will not return here to the criticism of the System of Planetary Masteries traditional astrology: refer to the article dedicated to it. Let us only note that for the partisans of this system, a planet “in dignity” (that is to say, which is in the Sign that she “rules” is supposed to have the most “benefic” effects, and that it is the opposite when it is in the diametrically opposite Sign: it is then said in “fall” and then manifests its most “malefic” tendencies. I am not making this up: you can find these definitions in any astrology book “traditional”.

The positions of the slow planets in 1737, when Pluto entered Scorpio and when no STD epidemic was ravaging Europe:

The positions of the slow planets in 1491, when Pluto entered Scorpio and the syphilis epidemic that ravaged Europe:

The positions of the slow planets in 1984, when Pluto entered Scorpio, when the AIDS epidemic had been in full swing for three or four years already:

From 1984 to 1995” therefore, according to A. Barbault, Pluto is in Scorpio, therefore in the sign of which it is the planet “mistress”. He should therefore bring his benefits, his “profits” for ten years. But it is exactly the opposite that happens: it is while Pluto is in Scorpio that it produces its worst “curses”, in this case the outbreaks of sexually transmitted diseases. We shudder at the idea of what could have happened during the last passages of Pluto in the sign diametrically opposed to Scorpio, that of its “fall”, the Taurus (1608–1640 and 1851–1882). A. Barbault does not talk about it, neither does Calamity Germaine. Probably because there were no epidemics of STDs (Sexually Transmitted Diseases) comparable to that of AIDS during these two periods. That’s really what’s called not giving a damn.

I summarize: that’s when Pluto is supposed to be the most “benefic”, that is to say when he is in the Sign that he “rules”, that it produces its most “malefic”.. If you understand anything about this kind of “logic”, you have won a packet of solid gold condoms.

That’s not all. You will also notice how elegantly André Barbault practices the art of dodging about the passage of Pluto in Scorpio in 1737–1748, which should logically have (according to its own logic) correspond to a serious epidemic of STDs, which did not occur: “Although there was no repetition of the genre in the previous passage”, he writes (I translate it: let’s not talk about angry subjects), but still, “it is AIDS that strikes the world throughout the crossing from 1984 to 1995”. But what was the abominably deadly Pluto doing in the infernal Sexual Sign of Scorpio between 1737–1748? Mystery and condom ball…

Let’s go on. For lack of MST in 1737–1748, André Barbault falls back on “an exceptional planetary concentration” when AIDS appeared, which he put “in parallel with that of 1347 which had seen the invasion of the famous “black plague” which decimated Europe”.

Let’s examine this assertion carefully with the astrological tools used by A. Barbault and E. Teissier to make their predictions.

The positions of the slow planets in 1347, during the Black Death, which one wonders what it has to do with AIDS, if not in the brains of sick astrologers:

In 1347, the major astrological phenomenon was a Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto conjunction in Aries. We do not see what such a planetary configuration has to do with the Black Death and what the Black Death has to do with AIDS, but hey, let’s face it. What happened when AIDS appeared? It all depends on the date you choose. A. Barbault cautiously notes that the beginnings of AIDS may date from 1979. But it was in 1981 that the epidemic began in earnest, while Pluto was in Libra, not Scorpio, Sign in which it will not enter “definitively” than in 1984, after a few retrogradations in Libra. In 1981, the major astrological phenomenon was a Jupiter-Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Libra. It is therefore not the same configuration as in 1347, whatever A. Barbault may say.

That’s still not all. Since Calamity Germaine and André Bobard have chosen a plane of reference — the passage of a star in a Sign in relation to a collective disease — homogeneity and coherence require that they keep the same frame of reference during the passage of the same star in all the signs.

Recall that for medicinal astrosymbolism, Libra rules the kidneys, Scorpio sex and Sagittarius the liver. During the passage of Pluto in Libra, we should have witnessed an upsurge in kidney disease, but it was not. During Pluto’s passage in Scorpio, we witnessed the AIDS epidemic… which is still not over, far from it, despite the fact that Pluto left this sign ten years ago. During the current passage of Pluto in Sagittarius, we should have witnessed an explosion of cirrhosis of the liver: nothing happened. And when Pluto passes through Capricorn, should we expect an epidemic of avian flu in the knee, the part of the body governed by this Sign according to brainless astrosymbolism?

We are bathed there in the most total irrationality. And it’s not over: in fact, between 1984 and 1995, Pluto was not in Scorpio.

Is Pluto/Scorpio Virgo or Libra?

The ecliptic, apparent trajectory of the Sun around the Earth, serves as a zodiacal reference plane: the zodiacal longitudes of the planets, found in our ephemeris, are calculated from the projection of their real position on the ecliptic plane. However, it should not be forgotten that the planetary orbits are all inclined with respect to the ecliptic plane, and that the planets therefore do not faithfully follow the solar trajectory. This height, positive or negative, with respect to the ecliptic plane is called the celestial latitude. It is because of these celestial latitudes that the zodiacal band has been conventionally widened by about 8° 30′ on either side of the ecliptic.

Take the case of Pluto, whose “domicile” is supposed to be Scorpio. Its perihelion (minimum distance from the Sun) is in the direction of 21° Scorpio. At its perihelion, Pluto, whose orbital plane is inclined about 17° to the ecliptic, has a maximum northern celestial latitude, and therefore a declination greater than that of the Sun at 21° Scorpio. To verify this, take our ephemerides for the date of 1/12/1991, the date on which the position of Pluto, projected on the ecliptic plane, is precisely 21° Scorpio, and note its declination: it is −4° 01′ south.

Let us now find out on what date the Sun has the same declination: it is 04/10/1991, and the Sun is then at 10° Libra. Pluto at 21° Scorpio therefore has the same zodiacal characteristics (declination, presence-absence time above the horizon depending on terrestrial latitude) as the Sun at 10° Libra. Let’s generalize: when Pluto is in the first decan of Scorpio, he has Virgo rhythms, and in the last two decans of Scorpio, Libra rhythms. Logic would then ask to interpret a Pluto in ecliptic longitude beginning Scorpio as a Pluto-Virgo.

From a purely cosmographical point of view, it is only around 17/10/2000 that Pluto begins to have real Scorpio rhythms, and this around until 15/02/2014. It will then pass, in ecliptic longitude, from 11° Sagittarius to 13° Capricorn.

In summary: when the AIDS epidemic began, Pluto was not located (in projection on the ecliptic plane) in Scorpio, but in Libra; when Pluto passed into Scorpio, in reality it had the astronomical characteristics of a star in Virgo. When Pluto came out of Scorpio, it actually had the astronomical characteristics of a star in Libra. All these astronomical facts have in no way prevented Élizabeth Teissier and André Barbault from telling nonsense about Pluto, Scorpio and AIDS, and from raising sordid and desperate hopes in those who are affected by this disease and who believe in these stupid prophecies (I hope they are few). The 26 million dead and 40 million people infected (2005 estimate) since the start of this epidemic will appreciate…

Erasmus and the Homosexual Steward

It’s not over: if the outbreak of the AIDS epidemic really happened in 1981 and unrelated to Pluto in Scorpio as I have just demonstrated, many researchers believe that the HIV virus has always existed:

The positions of the slow planets in 1536, when Erasmus died: nothing to do with the positions of 1981 or 1984:

It seems that sporadic cases of AIDS may have occurred before the outbreak of this epidemic: thus, some have suggested that Erasmus of Rotterdam, the author of the “Eloge de la folie”, would have died in 1536 of AIDS; this hypothesis is based on the fact that the symptoms which preceded his death have been the subject of a precise description which makes it possible to link them to opportunistic infections defining AIDS.” In 1536, there was neither Pluto in Scorpio, nor Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto conjunction, nor Jupiter-Saturn Pluto conjunction…

Another interesting case: “Another case is even better documented and it would make it possible to better understand the date of appearance of the epidemic: the AIDS test was carried out retrospectively on one of the first serum banks carried out in a steward who had contracted opportunistic infections similar to those of the AIDS, and who died in the 1960s. This test came back positive. Due to the high number of irregular bisexual partners that this steward would have had for several years (on the order of one a day for more than five years), some have suggested that he may be one of the missing links in the family. AIDS epidemic. Indeed, by successive contaminations, this person could have been a real time bomb.

In the 1960s” who saw in the West a wave of sexual liberation and consequently a better social visibility of homosexuality, Neptune passed in Scorpio, which made many astrosymbolists like Élizabeth Teissier and André Barbault that there was a causal relationship between Neptune in Scorpio (1956–1969) and homosexuality and that Neptune (a planet like Pluto deemed “malefic” by astrosymbolism) had somehow “prepared the ground” of AIDS-Pluto-Scorpio by relaxing collective mores.

The duration of Neptune’s sidereal revolution being 164 years, the previous passage of this star in Scorpio took place from 1792 to 1805. The literature of this period does not include any mention of a homosexual surge and of Gay prides during the French Revolution and the Napoleonic epic, no more than that of 1628 to 1641, and even less in the previous centuries, when the Church imposed an official heterosexual reign without sharing and that homosexuals ended up at the stake. The analogy “Neptune-Scorpio = homosexuality = latent AIDS” is therefore only one imbecility further peddled by astrosymbolism.

The recent liberation of sexual behavior in the West is not decreed by the stars, but by the evolution of the mentalities of terrestrial societies and there is no serious astrology except conditionalist.

So do not rely on the pseudo-astrology of Élizabeth Teissier or André Barbault and continue to go out COVERED.

This article was brought to you by Richard Pellard
English translation by Julien Rouger

See also:

▶ L’affaire Élizabeth Teissier : l’astrologie à l’université ?
▶ Élizabeth Teissier ou Calamity Germaine à la Sorbonne
▶ André Barbault et le conditionalisme
▶ Une critique inepte du conditionalisme par André Barbault
▶ Astro-psychanalyse théorique et pratique


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